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« on: March 18, 2005, 08:45:22 PM »

Just for the fun of it, I was wondering who you lot like and don't like for teachers. Not necessarily who you would if you had to actually go to their lessons, but who you like or dislike reading about. 

My favorite would have to be Moody. He's hilarious to read! I'm anxious for the GoF movie because I want to see who they cast for the part. My least favorite is definitely Umbridge. That woman is psychotic!

And of course this could all change depending on who JKR thinks up for the next DADA teacher..........   

And also, who would you choose to be your teacher? Mine would definitely Lupin, he's hands down the nicest.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2005, 01:22:15 PM »

Well, my favorite to read about is Snape, because he is much more complex than some of the other characters, and we're only beginning to scratch the surface, and I find it terribly fascinating to watch.

As for who I'd like to have as a teacher, it's a toss-up between Lupin and McGonagall.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 10:23:28 AM »

I agree, you could learn a lot from McGonagall.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 10:51:20 AM »

I think it would be rather funny if Snape became the next DADA teacher.  Would really throw Harry off since he needs to take the advanced classes in it to be come an Aurora, or however it's spelt.  It's been over a year since I've read the books.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 10:56:49 AM »

That would be cool, and it's plausible. Either way, JKR's got to cook up a teacher for some subject, and she's good at the oddities. I'm not sure how much longer I can wait for HBP!

(It's Auror, I believe. I'm re-reading the books again.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2005, 12:49:02 PM »

Harry will get plenty of time with Snape because he'll be in Advanced Potions so he can become an Auror. No need for JKR to make Snape the DADA teacher. IMNSHO, of course. ;)

Besides, [spoiler]JKR said the next DADA teacher will be a woman, didn't she?[/spoiler]

Oh, and have 10 points for an interesting discussion. :)
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2005, 09:32:29 PM »

I hadn't heard about that spoiler Ping.  I normally stay away from spoilers, I mean I don't seek them out but if I stumble upon them then it's okay, I mean I know very little about Episode III and I'm not even spoiler free.  Course I forgot about the advanced potions part.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 04:26:21 PM »

Interesting Ping, I'll have to look that up. I don't read much of the press.

The reason I don't think Snape will be the next DADA teacher is that Dumbledore might not approve. Every year he hires a new teacher for the post, even though Snape wants it. I think it is because, and this is pure speculation, Dumbledore may not entirely trust Snape as much as he seems to. I mean, Snape was a death eater once, and even though he's reformed, who's to say he wouldn't resort back to old ways if he was exposed every day to Dark magic? I'm reminded of something Percy said to Harry in SS:

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......that's Professor Snape. He teaches Potions, but he doesn't want to- everyone knows he's after Quirrel's job. Knows an awful about the Dark Arts, Snape.

Notice JKR didn't put "knows an awful about defending the Dark Arts," but just "about the Dark Arts." Hmmm.......   
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 04:56:44 PM »

I don't think it's a matter of Dumbledore not trusting Prof. Snape, I think it's that Prof. Snape is too good at teaching Potions that Dumbledore is more hard pressed to find a potions master.  Who's to say that while he's looking for a DADA teacher he's also looking into a new Potions teacher that is just as good, or better than Prof. Snape?  He said when we first met him in the first year that potions is a very complicated magic, it doesn't have to deal with waving of the wand but exact measurements of ingredients.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 05:06:15 PM »

True, but I still think that if Dumbldore really tried he could find another Potion's Master. It's got to be easier than continuing to fill "the cursed post" every single year. Besides, couldn't Snape's little speech in B1 just be because he's too egotistical to admit that he's teaching a subject he considers trivial? It's always been made very evident in the books that Snape wants badly to be the DADA professor, and that just makes you wonder why Dumbledore doesn't seem to agree that he could handle it.

And I wasn't really saying that Dumbledore doesn't trust him, just that he may be wary of placing him in a situation where he's exposed to what brought about his betrayal of their world last time around. That's what is considered risky in my book.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2006, 08:36:31 PM »

Who will teach DADA for book 7?
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2006, 04:02:24 PM »

It's interesting going back and reading through posts that were written before the books have come out. 

anywho, I'm still undecided on if Harry will go back to school or not.  I would like to think he would, maybe he will for half a year.  Is that allowed?


Where's an unlikely leep.  What if the initials on the locket were to be the new DADA teacher? only under a different name with a fake accent and junk like that.  I said it was an unlikely leep, stop looking at me like that.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2006, 11:45:44 AM »

I believe that JKR said that R.A.B. is a character that we've already met. 

Even though Harry's said he's not going to school next year, I think he has to go back.  Maybe not for actual classes, but part of the story has to be set in Hogwarts just because the school is such an integral part of the books.  Maybe there is a Horcrux there?
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 07:54:17 AM »

Christine, do you recall where you saw that JKR said we've already seen RAB?

I agree that he has to go back to Hogwarts, though not necessarily as a student.  I wouldn't be too surprised if the "final showdown" occurs there.  After all, they'd really be stuck with one another, right?  No apparition into or out of Hogwarts so, unless there's a portkey around, they'd have to fight it out, right?

Just a thought.....
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 08:35:13 AM »

I think Harry will go back to school (mainly to protect those close to him).  I imagine some event will occur during the summer which leads Harry to return to school.  I have a feeling the final battle will be at Hogwarts. 

The question becomes, who WILL the new DADA professor and Headmaster be?  With Dumbledore gone, there is a void for leadership.  While the obvious choice for Headmaster would seem to be McGonagall, I think someone from the Ministry (someone with questionable ties to YKW) will be installed as Headmaster.  As far as DADA, I don't think it will be Harry.  However, I cannot think of someone else who could take over the position.
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2006, 01:19:43 AM »

It would poisson me off royally if Harry didn't finish school.  I know, I know, you don't necessarily have to have N.E.W.T.s to be a full graduate from university, but ! 

These started off as children's books.  They are now being read mainly (sorry fellow adults) by pre-teens.  What sort of message does it send to have the main character quit school in the middle?

I may be an old prude, but that's how I feel.  Flame on.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2006, 03:37:56 PM »

I'm with you on this, Susan! I hope he does go back and finish. But then again, what sort of story could it be? Hogwarts has been the safe zone, and he's to the point he needs to set out into the world. I just worry that it'll be a bad example for kids. "Harry Potter dropped out!"
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2006, 06:44:25 PM »

While I agree that it would be nice to have Harry finish out schooling, I just don't see how that could be.  Hogwarts is no longer the safe zone, and I don't see how he could concentrate on classes knowing that he is the only one who knows what it's going to take to destroy LV...and that it's his destiny to kill LV or be killed by him.  Who's honestly going to sit through Prof. Binn's ghost's class when you've got all that going on??!

I would hope that parents would be in charge enough of their kids to point out that when they've got the most evil dark wizard in the world breathing down their neck and they're the only ones that can do anything about it, then they can drop out of school, too!   :laugh:
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2006, 08:09:46 AM »

I hope parents would be, too, but I begin to doubt, after listening to my roommate talk about her experiences with idiot parents. So many reasons I'm not a teacher! :D

I agree it needs to not take place at Hogwarts, or at least not with him as a student. It wouldn't fit in with his growth as a character.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2006, 12:28:39 AM »

Perhaps he could get some version of the American GED?
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2006, 11:40:13 AM »

Hasn't he already done that, essentially, by getting his OWLs?  Or am I misunderstanding how that all works?
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2006, 02:24:02 PM »

I think you're right, Cho. He technically doesn't have to finish his last year in order to be a competent wizard. I think. He just wouldn't get the auror job, unless he gets special approval, I guess.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2006, 03:30:37 PM »

Unless, of course, he has some credentials -- like defeating the most evil dark wizard of the century -- on his resume....

For example.   ;D
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2006, 03:50:56 PM »

True. I guess that counts as "equivalent experience."
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2006, 02:03:31 PM »

What if . . . .

What if Harry were to go to Drumstang for his last year to better learn the dark arts to finish off Voldy?  In GoF wasn't it mentioned that D. taught their students the dark arts? 

Probably won't happen, but it could be interesting.
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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2006, 08:00:14 PM »

I seriously don't think Harry has learned enough DA or DADA to finish off LV.
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2006, 01:03:54 AM »

So I just wanted to point out that though this topic has become very interesting, and all aspects of it are intriguing to me, I did notice some spoilers that were posted.  Seeing as how this is in a "No Spoilers" section, those posts should probably be adequately marked as being such.  It didn't bother me, but I' hate to be someone new to the board who hasn't quite finished up the books that are out, and have one or two of the ruined for me...

And of course, though it's off topic, one of the more interesting threads I've read recently!

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Now that Harry has broken up with Ginny and made it clear that he means to move on with his life, I don't see him returning to Hogwarts as a full-time student.  I came to the conclusion that book 7 pretty much HAS to be made up of Harry tracking Voldemort and trying to defeat him -- though I'd LOVE to see him at Hogwarts for his final year (in the series), I don't think he can pay the proper amount of attention to tracking and defeating the most power dark wizard of all time, between a double potions and defense against the dark arts class.... I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see him as a full-time student at all.  But as it was also pointed out, the MoM would not likely give him an Auror job, as he is not fully qualified -- I agree with the argument that facing Voldemort many times would mark him as credible, HOWEVER, how much respect does the MoM REALLY give to Harry?

Now, just to keep my post on topic... As far as a new teacher for the DADA position, I would suspect it would, once again, be a new teacher who we do not know.  It seems that there is always a new teacher brought in to Hogwarts on account of the DADA (even Slughorn was brought in to fill the void that Snape left because of the DADA), so I would assume the same would occur in book 7.

I won't even speculate on the Head spot at Hogwarts...
Keep in mind that I'm not even TOTALLY sure that Hogwarts will in fact stay open... I mean the teachers are in favor of it, yes, but really, if it goes through the "proper" channels and old MoM members (sorry, Ping!) who don't know anything about anything are to make the decision, I wouldn't be surprised to see the school shut down, with the Order making it a secret hide out for their business, and Harry returning to Hogwarts to destroy a hidden Horcrux in the bowels of the school...  Who can even guess at this point, I know I sure can't...
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2006, 10:25:55 PM »

Re: new head of Hogwarts.  I just hope beyond anything that it's not Dolores Umbridge!!!

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2006, 11:13:01 PM »

My guess is that Hogwarts won't stay open. However, my only basis for saying that is from a "literary convenience" standpoint. That way, Harry can spend his time searching for Horcruxes and JK won't get nasty letters from mothers wondering why she made her hero a high-school dropout.
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