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Half Blood Prince Speculations
« on: September 16, 2004, 08:07:13 PM »


I was thinking, and what about Pettigrew? We got so much with GG and LV's brother, and James. What If we're overlooking the obvious?

Any thoughts?
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 12:01:56 AM »

Pettigrew is definitely a possibility, I didn't consider him, but it seems... compelling, somehow. JKR must have plans for him, after GoF, and I was shocked that he hardly even got a mention in OoP.

I was thinking the other day along these same lines, and what if it was Snape? We can't be sure he's pureblood, and it would provide an excellent opportunity to get more background information on him. He's such a multi-faceted character, and I would certainly like to get more information about him.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2004, 04:50:54 PM »

Snape as HBP? *Shivers in a good way*

I've thought about that, but I think JKR has bigger plans for my Snapeykins. (j/k)

I'm not sure on anything. I just want the book to come out, so i can know. And, we're one book closer to book 7! :roll:

I would like to see Snape, GG, or maybe even *GASP* Lupin be the HBP. It never said the person was 1/2 Muggle, now did it?
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 07:37:37 PM »

Lupin... I don't see how it could be Lupin, although I do think that half-blood does not necessarily mean half-muggle. HBP is connected to CoS, and I don't think JKR would have even considered putting Lupin... or Pettigrew for that matter... into CoS.

On JKR's site, she says the following in the FAQ section about the link between the two books:

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The link I mentioned between books two and six does not, in fact, relate to the 'Half-Blood Prince' (Because there is no trace left of the HBP storyline in 'Chamber'.) Rather, it relates to a discovery Harry made in 'Chamber' that foreshadows something he finds out in 'Prince'.

*sigh* Time to read CoS again... this time I think I'll list "discoveries" that Harry makes along the way. This, however, reaffirms my belief that it's Hagrid.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 10:00:56 AM »

The Leaky Caudrin had a posting a week or so ago where someone who spoke with JKR said she denied Hagrid was the HBP.  However, LC said they could not confirm the conversation.  I would love for it to be Hagrid. 
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 05:03:33 PM »

I don't know. What else do we know About CoS?

*goes off to read*
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 02:19:57 PM »

Um, let's see..... We know

- that there are great big scary spiders in the forbidden forest.
- that Tom Riddle and Harry Potter have a lot in common (but we already know it's not either of them)
- that Gilderoy Lockhart is a fake
- that pixies are dangerous
- that Dumbledore was a transfigurations prof.
- that it wasn't Hagrid who released the monster
- that there is a "club" called the Headless Hunt lead by Sir Podmore
- that ghosts celebrate their death days
- that Harry really did belong in Gryffindor
- that Fudge is a political wuss
- that Tom Riddle really is the last remaining heir of Salazaar Slytherin
- that phoenixes have healing properties and die and are reborn from their ashes every month and can carry very heavy loads and are fiercely loyal
- that the sorting hat can hold conversations in sentence constructions other than rhyme


.. er, that's all I can think of at the moment. 
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 05:33:15 PM »

Oddly, I think I've seen JKR's quote about it relating to something Harry discovered in "Chamber" actually being something he discovered "in the Chamber," which is quite different. Can anyone find out which one it is?
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2004, 06:01:14 PM »

Yeah, I was thinking that, too, Ping.

What about the sword and it being Godric's? I think that is very crucial. Again, just a hunch.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2004, 06:06:45 PM »

Oooh, that would narrow it down a lot!

A couple of things to add to Cho's list;

-Harry first discovers house elves in CoS.
-He meets Arthur, and crashes his car into the whomping willow.
-the Basilisk


er... I actually wrote a list, which has walked away from me temporarily... when I find it, I may add more.

The Godric's sword idea is a strong arguing point for GG being the HBP, too.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2004, 07:51:44 PM »

Direct quote from JKR's website:
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The link I mentioned between books two and six does not, in fact, relate to the Half-Blood Prince (because there is no trace left of the HBP storyline in 'Chamber').  Rather, it relates to discovery that Harry made in 'Chamber' that foreshadows something he finds out in 'Prince.'

So, it's about the whole book.

I suspect it has something to do with his father or about Snape.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2004, 12:10:53 AM »

I think it has something to do with that character JKR removed from the story, the one who was supposed to talk with Malefoy and came from a "Pure-blood" family. Well I guess he's sort of Malefoy but intelligent. Anyway, JKR doesn't say why she chose not to talk about him, and I don't know, everyone in Slytherin ism't very...well smart in the book, there has to be at least one person who is mean AND intelligent.

It's obviously someone from the "dark side" that's what "Prince" stands for, you know, since Voldemort is called the Dark "Lord", I guess some of his important death eaters or friends can be named "Prince". Wich is why, I don't think it can be Snape because he doesn't seem to be more imporant than other Death eaters to Voldemort. And "Half-blood", probably means the Prince turns out to be half muggle or something like that.   
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2004, 12:40:46 AM »

Hmm.  I thought she removed that character from the entire storyline altogether, though.  I thought that was the point of telling us about him/her -- she thought about it but decided not to work them in.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong ...
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2004, 06:30:16 AM »

Actually you're probably right, but I don't know, it just seems like there has to be an intelligent slytherin and he/she still isn't there, or perhaps it's going to be a new teacher,  there's always a problem with the DDA teacher...
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2004, 09:24:58 PM »

Well, I don't know if it's too obvious so it's not the case, or if you guys have ruled it out completely already, but I thought it was going to be LV himself. It just seemed sort of logical to me...he's half blood, and he's quite a special character. Packed with power, he's vain...well he always had a feel which was sortt of royal, and it's possible that one of his ancestors was a king...isn't it?
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2004, 09:47:17 PM »

Yes, Kelpie.  He would be the obvious choice, except that JKR has already said that it is neither LV/Tom Riddle nor Harry.  That's what we all thought until JKR said that.

Bummer, huh? 

My reigning thought is Godric Gryffindor (or some relative/descendant of). 
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2004, 04:19:54 AM »

I think it's Gryffindor too, now. Other than Godric's sword, the only really significant discoveries are the phoenix tears thing (which was sorta expanded on in OOTP, and doesn't seem to connect with a prince anyhow), the ghosts are dead, can't be Aragog, I don't think it's the Hat ...

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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2004, 08:03:58 AM »

Well, you know, here's a thought:  perhaps what Harry discovered in Chamber has nothing to do with who the HBP is.  Perhaps it's just related -- tangentially or directly -- to the plot of HBP and not the person.

So, in other words, perhaps we're racking our brains trying to put them together for nothing.

Thoughts??
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2004, 08:47:04 AM »

I suspect you're right, Cho. I mean, as difficult as it is to see any possible clues to book 6 in book 2, I doubt JKR would make it that easy for us to guess who the HBP is. It's probably related to a clue which would give away some intangible nothing in HBP, like putting together the first letter of every sentence in a paragraph to find the name of who Harry will date, or some such nonsense. *sighs disappointedly*

I still highly doubt it's Gryffindor. It just seems too obvious to me. If the book comes out and it turns out it IS Gryffindor, you can all laugh at me and say "I told you so," but for now, I'm standing my ground.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2004, 07:29:27 PM »

I really don't know what i think any more. I agree with Cho about Snape/Dad having something to do with it. I'm pushing for GG, though. I want to know more about him.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2004, 10:20:38 PM »

The other thing that just occurred to me as I read Deedra's post just now is that it seems as if we've heard alot about Salazaar Slytherin (in book two, no less!) and it would be fitting to learn alot about Gryffindor, since they seem to be the two prototypes after whom all the major characters are fashioned.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2004, 11:13:03 PM »

Okay, how's this for a T-Shirt winning idea? Here goes.

Hermione's uncle is the half blood prince.

Wait! I have a reason!!

Hermione is described a multitude of times throughout the books as looking like Professor McGonagall. I submit a theory that Professor McGonagall is Hermione's half-aunt. Hermione's father was Professor McGonagall's father's son. Professor McGonagall is a half-blood. Her father was a half-blood who hated his witch mother. He was accepted into Hogwarts, and he married a witch. He then divorced the witch, and ran off with a muggle woman. He disclaimed all ties to the magical world. The couple then had a child, Hermione. So Hermione is NOT of muggle parentage. Her father is the half-blood prince.

Ha. Beat that. ^_^ LOL, j/k. I know this is highly, even incredibly unlikely, but I thought of it during school yesterday, and I decided to post it.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2004, 06:56:54 AM »

I don't recall it ever saying that Hermione looks like McGonagall. Can you cite a reference? I know they act similarly, but I can't think of when it mentions an actual physical resemblence?

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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2004, 03:14:08 PM »

Okay, so it's not so much physical resemblance, but there are several quotes like:

"Hermione gave him a look so reminicent of Professor McGonagall that he had to give up."
"Hermione gave them a look not unlike the one Professor McGonagall sometimes wore."
Etc.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2004, 10:55:52 PM »

Hmm. Yeah, I figured that was just a mannerisms thing more than actually being related. I mean, I mimic my friends and especially people I admire all the time, whether consciously or not. So I figured JKR was just showing that Hermione was like McGonagall in her adherence to rules and stuff.
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2004, 08:56:08 AM »

Yeah... I know. Still, making up crazy theories is fun. Ooh! I bet Dudley is the Half-Blood Prince! Or... Crookshanks! Yeah. It's definitely one of those. Or how about... *continues ad infinitum*
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2004, 02:05:59 PM »

How about we say Snape actually reproduced and, even though I think he dislikes muggles, married a Muggle woman and their son is the HBP! Deedra comes in 2nd for teeshirt sontest!
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2004, 05:33:59 PM »

Hey, maybe the HBP is Trevor, Neville's toad! When we're talking about an incognito prince, who'd be better?

I've also heard some theories that the HBP could be Justin Finch-Fletchly:
- He was supposed to go to ETON, a distinguished school popular with the Royal Family.
- Justin is a half blood.
- JK said there were clues in the CoS. That's where he was introduced.

I don't particularly like the idea, but I thought i'd point it out.
Oh yes, and in CoS Harry also discovered Moaning Myrtle and that Filch is a squib. :)


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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2004, 08:58:43 PM »

If it is the heir of Godric somehow I wonder how Godric's Hollow fits into this. If the heir of Gryffindor is alive why wasn't he staying there. Then again we never got confirmation that Godric's Hollow had anything to do with Godric Gryffindor. I remember Rowling say that the name Godric's Hollow was significant somehow though.

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« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2004, 06:34:21 PM »

You have a point, ARR (I'm shortening your name, hope you don't mind). I do remember that in an interview. *GRRR* hope we now soon. Well, july isn't that far away, is it?  :-\
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2004, 07:37:25 AM »

Welcome back, ARR!  Nice to see you again!

Yes, you're right.  I'm sure Godric's Hollow is going to figure into this again at some point.  Perhaps the HBP will come from Godric's Hollow or was born and raised there or something. 
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2004, 10:55:33 AM »


I would love if Snape was the prince, just because i love him so much. But I dont think its him.
The theory about GG and his conection to the sword in CoS is the best one in my opinion. But Ill try some others ;D:

_  Hagrid is half blood, not half muggle, but half giant, it could be him. Maybe the prince of giants!!! (this is really good ;)) Plus, his the kind of guy you would never expect to be a prince. Maybe he could lead the giants against Voldemort!!!
_ I know the weasleys are pure blood, but maybe there is some secret we still dont know, about the weasleys been not so pure blood as we think. Im saying that becouse JKR loves the meaning of names, and Arthur isthe name of a king, THE famous king. Maybe one of his sons would be the prince, maybe Ron (OK, I know, not a very good theory... :-\)




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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2005, 04:24:19 PM »

Kitty Snape, I've heard that specualtion already (about Arthur) and totally must agree. Plus, I really hope it's a Weasley.
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Re: Half Blood Prince Speculations
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2005, 08:58:12 AM »

Justin Finch-Fletchley... hmmmm. Makes an odd sort of sense. And is completely random and would throw the story in another direction than where we think it's going, and be all cool and stuff. Maybe. *visions of muggles and wizards having to work together*
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