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Order of the Phoenix Movie
« on: June 23, 2004, 11:09:10 PM »

IMDB is projecting a November 2007 release date for the movie.  No cast members or director has signed on as of date.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2004, 11:11:50 PM »

I thought they were doing a movie a year in order to keep up with the growth of the actors so they can keep the same actors through the entire movie series? Of course, I guess as long as they still look the part it doesn't really matter how old they actually are...

hehe, I think it's still a bit early for them to be singing for OoP...they have to film GoF first!
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2004, 11:09:06 AM »

Well, you know, in Lizzie McGuire, Gordo was 16 while playing a 13/14 year old...so they're often a lot older...  ;)

In fact, I think they originally started as the same age as their characters, but they've been doing it every other year, but it'll be longer for GoF and OotP if they split it into 2 parts. I think/hope they'll keep the same actors unless they refuse to sign on/they die/they are ill...and so forth... I wonder who'll play Umbridge? That'll be fun to see  ;D
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2004, 11:56:41 AM »

I think its quite possible for an older actor to realistically portray a younger character, and it happens all the time. Tom Felton is the main example from Harry Potter. I think he's a year or two older than the other kids. The difference here is that Dan, Rupert and Emma all are maturing quickly and look OLDER than their real ages, rather than younger. Gordo from Lizzie McGuire looks really young for his age, so that isn't a problem with him. Gregory Smith is 19/20 and plays an extremely realistic 15/16 year old on Everwood. It depends on the actor, and these actors are going to look too old, especially three years from now.

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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2004, 10:44:58 PM »

I wish I could play Umbridge. Ever since I read the book I've thought that it just sounded like the funnest role. Sometimes when I'm reading, I'll catch myself reading out loud in my "Umbridge-voice." I would have SO much fun with that.  ;D

Then again, talk about age differences, I'm only 16 and she's like... what, 55-60? (I guess.) They never cast younger actors for older roles, when there's plenty of adult actors available.

But, as with GoF, I'm scared to see how much they'll mutilate this movie, seeing how much they had to cut out of the first three.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2004, 06:58:18 PM »

Shelly, could we get a .wav file of that voice please? :laugh:
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2004, 11:10:05 PM »

I second the motion!

Shelly, you know, they sometimes do cast younger actors for older parts... but usually not until they're all the way grown up.  ;)  And part of the reason they cast older actors for younger parts is the time restrictions on how long younger actors can work in a week.  (And then there's the whole teen angst stuff that lots of directors don't want to have to deal with.  ;))

It sounds like the trio for the movies is pretty darn mature and easy to work with.  I respect that.

I did character acting in high school.  I was always playing mothers, grand-mothers, step-mothers, and various old people.  I'm only 24 but...  *sigh*  But I'm not British.  You know, anymore.  That whole War - what do they call it?  The War of Insurrection?  Is that it?  Everyone else calls it the American Revolution.  Don't they?  Um...   :-[

(Pssst, hey Mad, your ignorance is showing.)  :p  :laugh:
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2004, 12:56:08 PM »

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It sounds like the trio for the movies is pretty darn mature and easy to work with.

Everyone except Emma Watson, whom I understand put up a fight when the time came to renew contracts.  She was the last of the three to sign up for "Goblet of Fire".

And yes, they call the War of Insurrection the "Revolutionary War" or "American Revolution" or some such nonsense down here.  The truth is, they let you win. :laugh:
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2004, 01:28:10 PM »

^-^  Smart move.  First thing they did right about the Colonies in about a hundred years.  :p

What kind of fight, Susan?  I haven't heard this gossip yet.   ;)
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 11:42:41 AM »

My auntie Ronda would be good as Umbridge but not as good as Shelly would  :)
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 02:33:58 PM »

Dude, if I had a microphone I'd totally record it for you guys.  :laugh:

And it's true they do cast young people to old roles sometimes, but more often you'll see a 28 year old playing a 15 year old, rather than vice-versa. Even when I did some community theater last year, they would only let me in a teensy little role because I was too young to play the older roles. It's frustrating. I wish I could be one of those Mary Kate and Ashley kids who get to start out being famous without any work. *grr*

I dunno, I always have more fun playing the bad guy in plays for some reason. It's fun.  ;D
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2004, 04:49:24 AM »

Bad guys are always more fun.  >:D

... err ... I mean ... :p


On-topic, after seeing PoA which I didn't especially enjoy (though after seeing it again, I don't think it was as bad as I thought at first), I don't really want to see what they're going to do to GoF and OOTP. They're going to cut out so much. *shudder*

Also, I liked Tom Felton in CoS (he looked like the perfect Malfoy) but he's far too big now to realistically play a fourteen-year-old. And don't get me started on his hair. :p

When I was watching School of Rock it struck me that the drummer really reminded me of Malfoy. Prolly won't happen, but that would be some good casting if that happened.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 12:09:38 PM »

With the whole ages thing, the kids can be older because the adults are older, right? A Rickman is Snape, who in the books is ike 35-6, while Rickman himself is 63-4. Does this make sense? :-\
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2004, 12:42:14 PM »

Everyone's older than they look in Hollywood, but it's a lot easier to pull off, say, less wrinkles and gray hair ;) than it is to pull off less height and ... um ... effects of puberty.  Like filling out, getting facial hair, and growing more mature looking for guys, and, er...  :-[ well, obviously... um... figure... changes... for girls.  And height and maturity look, although that's not quite as noticable for girls as teens.  They can look a lot older than they are in that respect pretty early on.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2004, 12:57:34 PM »

very true. What was the topic again?
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2004, 07:01:41 PM »

Everyone's older than they look in Hollywood, but it's a lot easier to pull off, say, less wrinkles and gray hair ;) than it is to pull off less height and ... um ... effects of puberty.  Like filling out, getting facial hair, and growing more mature looking for guys, and, er...  :-[ well, obviously... um... figure... changes... for girls.  And height and maturity look, although that's not quite as noticable for girls as teens.  They can look a lot older than they are in that respect pretty early on.

I am from the 90210 generation where 30 somethings were playing teenagers.  It is easier for me to take a 16 year old playing a 13 year old.  Although, I think that casting changes may not be a bad idea.  I get the feeling that the movie studio is trying to churn the movies out so quickly, that quality is being affected.  Perhaps a decision to make casting changes would allow more time to put together better scripts.  I appeciate that things will have to be cut or rearranged for the sake of communicating the story in movie form.  However, I think if the studio took more time to put together a better script, better choices could be made as to what to cut, how to order scenes, etc.  While I like PoA (mostly out of a fondness for the book and enjoying seeing it acted out), I felt cheated when a lot of my favorite parts and backstory were cut.  I worry that GoF and OoP will suffer the same butchering.  In my experience with legal writing, my first draft is normally very long, but if I take the time to edit and revise, I can ususally communicate the same information in a more concise, clear way without foresaking content.  I think the same thing could be done with the movies.

When I was watching School of Rock it struck me that the drummer really reminded me of Malfoy. Prolly won't happen, but that would be some good casting if that happened.


I agree.  Felton has not aged well for the part.  (Same thing with poor Rupert Grint).  I always saw Malfoy as slicker (and a little prettier).  The kid from School of Rock would make a good Malfoy. 
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2004, 10:31:28 AM »

Hmm, I never thought twice about that kid from School of Rock, but now you mention it, he does seem like a Malfoy. Too bad he's not British.

Ew, I hated Felton's hair too...  :-X
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2004, 12:02:36 PM »

The new and improved hang over look? I thought it was nice... and kinda cute! ;D
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2004, 03:30:48 AM »

Nahh, I loved the slicked-back look. I dunno, I just like that style, especially for evil guys. It also helped make a distinction between Harry and Malfoy ... Harry's the one with messy hair, Malfoy has perfect slicked-back coolness.

But I digress.

It's not actually hard for me to take in a 16-year-old playing a third year - I mean, in the first movie the people who acted the twins were a lot older than 13, and that was fine ... but only if all the third years are sixteen-year-old actors or people who look that age. See, I don't really mind if they look older than they should be, it's just that they should all look the same age, d'you know what I mean? Like in PoA, Malfoy looked so much older than the rest, and that was kind of weird ... if they'd all looked that age it would have been fine.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2004, 06:57:06 PM »

Personally, I hope that Malfoy improves in GoF.

He just looked so lame and dumb in PoA.  Maybe that's what happens when you don't have a house-elf to gel your hair flat for you... ;D
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2004, 10:33:06 PM »

Yea, i thought they really over played the stupid empty treat foppish malfoy and totaly skiped over the really evil mean malfoy im movie 3. Hopefuly movie 4 and them 5 will remedy that.
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2006, 06:22:35 PM »

IMDB is saying filming starts in February.  Any word on casting?
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2006, 08:35:00 PM »

Filming starts this week?  Has anyone heard any casting rumors?
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2006, 07:50:53 AM »

There's been a few things more come out, cast-wise. The person that's been talked about as Umbridge was confirmed, and they confirmed a couple of other roles. Hadn't heard of the people, though. :(
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2006, 12:23:29 PM »

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Oldman Axed from Harry Potter Film?


 Actor Gary Oldman looks unlikely to reprise his role as Sirius Black in the next Harry Potter offering, after reports he has been mysteriously axed from the wizard franchise. Oldman, who has appeared in the last two movies adapted from JK Rowling's popular children's books, has yet to be signed for a third term - even though filming for Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix has already begun. The actor's manager, Douglas Urbanski, tells British newspaper The Sun, "You will be shocked to learn there are no plans for Gary to appear in the film. To say we are puzzled is an understatement at the very least! We are left with no choice but to pursue other employment for him." Vanessa Davis, spokeswoman for production company Warner Brothers, confirms no deal has been reached, but insists there is still time to resolve the confusion. She says, "With any film the priority is confirming the cast who will be on the set from the outset."

HOW CAN THEY MAKE THE MOVIE WITHOUT SIRIUS???????????
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2006, 12:52:54 PM »

That's .... bizarre. I'd heard they hadn't signed a deal yet, but I had assumed they were still working something out. I missed the bit from the agent about finding other employment. That's disheartening. They HAVE to have Sirius! That's the whole freaking point!
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2006, 06:03:16 PM »

they can`t film the fifth movie without sirius because at the end of the fourth book the weasly`s meet sirius and in the fifth book there all at a house together and it would not make sense.
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2006, 03:51:37 PM »

In case people haven't heard, Oldman HAS been cast officially. I think there may be still one or two more people lingering around without contracts yet, but most people are there.

Apparently Jason Isaacs loves being Lucius and hopes that he gets a prison break and a chance to appear in book 7 so that he can play him again. :D
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2006, 01:54:53 PM »

He does a great job playing Lucius -he makes me look forward to his scenes (something I don't do in the book).  I am relieved Oldman has been cast - I was worried the movie was going to completely deviate from the book.  How in the world can OoP be distilled into one movie?  My only hope is the Grawp story line is dumped.
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Re: Order of the Phoenix Movie
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2006, 06:15:22 PM »

I disagree!  >:(
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