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When I saw the baby-thing in Harry's "afterlife," I thought it symbolized the bit of Harry that was Voldemort's horcrux. Since Harry was made a horcrux in his infancy, the horcrux was visually represented by a doomed, hurt, infant inside Harry's soul, so to speak, that had to perish for Harry's soul to emerge pure and horcrux-free.

And I was a little confused as to how he didn't die, also, but a friend suggested to me that it was because Voldemort was still immortal at the time, and his connection with Harry (through the horcrux) made it so Harry shared that trait of immortality. Neither can live while the other survives, I guess... but I don't entirely get it. I'm going to reread it soon.

I think that the Elder Wand worked the same before LV killed Snape as it did afterward: i.e. as a regular wand. I think that anyone could use it as a regular wand, but only its "rightful owner" could harness its full power. What I didn't get was how Draco became the rightful owner when it was Snape who killed Dumbledore. I guess it must have to do with the fact that even though he killed Dumbles, he didn't "defeat" him, because he did what was asked of him.

One question I had that, as far as I remember, never got answered, was the matter of what James and Lily did for a living. It seems to me that JKR would never tell us because it was somehow important to the story, but the book ended and she never told. Same with Harry's green eyes, save for a brief mention in the "Prince's Tale" chapter.

I was, like Ping, so so glad that JKR decided to give some background on Dumbledore. Forgive me for saying so, but up until this book, he seemed almost Godlike, and I was really glad that there was a bit of humanity and humility added to his character in this last book.

Soon after I posted last, it actually DID hit me that there'll be no more Harry. I actually had a couple hours where I was feeling like "Wow... now what am I going to do with myself?" It was very strange. Still is strange, to think that it's actually done. There's (almost) nothing left to speculate about. The Harry Potter rumors will fade away from the internet. I'll never scour books 1-6 again, looking for clues as to what happens next. I'll never be able to argue over Crazy Theory X again. It's... weird.

Still working on getting all my thoughts into one, coherent, comprehensive review. It might take me a while, but I promise you'll see one.

Okay, once again, I'm going to go ahead and post a very very early review. It's practically tradition. I stay up all night reading the book at light speed, then come here half-drunk from lack of sleep and tell what I think of it in questionable grammar and sentence structure. Just in case you haven't gotten the gist yet, this is going to contain SPOILERS 2 DA MAXX.

It was very nearly perfect. I'm actually dumbfounded at how much I liked it. I'm definitely going to need a second reading very soon, because there was just SO MUCH. There was SO MUCH in those little 750-plus pages, which, ironically, its shortness is the one of the only things I can complain about. How anyone could fit so many things into so relatively few pages, still mystifies me.

So many deaths... it's hard to believe. And they happen so quickly, especially in the final battle. The only death I caught as it happened, and not as an aftermention, was Fred's. When they said that Tonks, Colin, Lupin had died, I hadn't had any idea. Of course, it was realistic to the tone of the battle, but still quite a nasty shock to read "Oh, by the way, Lupin's dead."

The tone was way way way way way darker than all the rest of the novels combined. I was shocked at certain places that this novel used to be meant for small children. It's hard to imagine a 9-year-old reading them anymore.

Because the action was so fast paced, it was a little hard to follow for me, though I suspect that has a lot to do with staying up 24 hours straight and reading the book as fast as I possibly could.

And I really feel like I have to give a single brief "I told you so." I was right about a lot of things. Which, really, I kind of wish I hadn't been. I expected to be wrong. But I have an immense new respect for JKR. I was a skeptic. I never ever thought she could ever wrap everything up satisfactorily. But I think she pulled it off, guys.

I am happy and tired. It hasn't hit me yet that I just got done with the last first reading of a Harry Potter book. When it does, I will cry. But for right now, I will sleep.

Good luck with your reading adventures. Though I guess if you read this, you've probably already finished.

Hogwarts (No Spoilers) / Re: Sirius's death?
« on: July 20, 2007, 06:28:48 PM »
I'm pretty sure it didn't say what spell it was, but that it was red light, and not green, so it wasn't a killing curse. Could have been a Stunning Spell. In the movie, I think she actually said "Avada Kedavra" but we all know how true the movies are to the books.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / My attitude toward spoilers
« on: July 19, 2007, 01:30:12 AM »
I would like to note that I am signing off the internet for a few days.

Spoilers are everywhere, you guys. Everywhere. The New York Times just posted a review of Book 7. With spoilers.

My friend just called me to tell me he's 150 pages into it. I had to hang up on him to keep him from telling me things.

Temptation is high to look at spoilers, especially when it's so easy, but I implore you to hold on for a few more days. As for me? I'll be gone for two days, 29 minutes at least, and when I finish the book, this will be the first place I'll come.

And even if you don't WANT to look at spoilers, be careful if you're surfing the net. I have no doubt that people will sabotage various webpages with THE GIANT SQUID EATS KARKAROFF ON PAGE 205!!!!11!!LULZ!!!1ONE.

And, on that note, farewell. Until we meet again, as older and wiser fans.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Horcruxes speculation thread
« on: July 12, 2007, 03:08:39 AM »

Wow, KM, long time no see! What brings you back to this neck of the web?


I'm not positive I understand you correctly, but let me see if I've got it straight. You think that Nagini is not a horcrux because the passage that Cho cited could also be an example of his ability to possess any snake, and not of his unique connection to Nagini.

But then what does that say about the connection between Harry and Voldypants in the first place? That's always been my prime indicator that Harry is a horcrux, that he shares that connection with Voldy against both their wills.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Harry-est Town
« on: June 26, 2007, 05:17:39 PM »
Wow, my town is number sixteen and the town right next to mine is number two. This is crazy, Ping! Then again, half the towns on the list are in my state, so there you go. That's awesome.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / I know why Snape is good.
« on: June 26, 2007, 05:11:40 PM »
Since the release of book 6, I have struggled with my own opinion on whether Severus Snape is on the side of the Order or on the side of Lord Voldemort. Like many of you, questions about his loyalty have plagued my mind for years. I am happy to announce that our worries are over. I am now firmly of the opinion that Snape is a good guy, and I shall give you all good evidence why.

Once upon a time, a man named Severus was lurking in a bar, spying on one Albus Dumbledore. At this point, Snape was under the employ of Lord Voldemort. While listening at the door, he heard the latter part of a prophecy made by the interviewee of Professor Dumbledore, one Sybill Trelawney. He almost immediately ran to Lord Voldemort to tell him of this news, but, and this is important, not knowing who Trelawney was at the time, he did not tell Lord Voldemort who made the prophecy. Lord Voldemort soon met his downfall due to that prophecy when he tried to destroy Harry Potter.

We know that it was around this time that Snape went to Dumbledore and expressed his remorse at ever being on the Dark Lord's side. He then entered the employ of Hogwarts as a teacher, which must have been at about the same time as Sybill Trelawney also became employed at Hogwarts.

Fourteen-ish years later, Lord Voldemort returned. He became obsessed with discovering the entirety of that prophecy. The record of the prophecy was smashed in the hall of prophecy, and Voldemort was ticked because now he could never find out what it said.

Two years later, Trelawney unwittingly revealed that Snape had interrupted their interview sixteen years prior, and soon thereafter, Professor Dumbledore and Harry Potter had a conversation in Dumbledore's office in which Dumbledore revealed that he believed it would be unwise to allow Trelawney to go free because she made the prophecy and she could be found out by the Dark Lord.

As a side note, Obviously, if the Dark Lord can torture Bertha Jorkins into remembering things she had forgotten under influence of memory modification, he would be capable of getting information out of Trelawney, who similarly has no memory of making the prophecy.

And now, for the grand finale...

After sixteen years of teaching in the same school as her, Snape now definitely knows who Trelawney is. He knows that Lord Voldemort would LOVE to find out who Trelawney is. And yet, Trelawney is still alive and safe. The only explanation is that Snape never told Voldemort that Trelawney made the prophecy, and the only reason for that would be that Snape is on the side of the Order of the Phoenix.

There. What do you think?

Zonko's Joke Shop / Re: Game.
« on: June 07, 2007, 08:26:18 PM »
Firefox. Actually, I often use Safari, and I also really like the look of Opera and I'm considering downloading it to try it out. But given a choice between the two, definitely Firefox.

Applebees or Red Robin?

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 title (spoilers)
« on: June 07, 2007, 08:20:37 PM »
Very interesting theory, and so far the most plausible to me.  So would the wand belong to one of the founders, or is it simply that he made it a horcrux somehow? 

*is excited*
If I recall correctly, Voldypants doesn't have anything of Gryffindor's yet that we know of, right? Well, what if Fawkes, being an immortal phoenix, once belonged to Gryffindor, and so our favorite evil mastermind made his wand, which contains a feather from Fawkes, into a horcrux?

And, for your Shelly-branded Crazy Theory of the Day™, I'm going to ask a completely random question. What if Fawkes himself was a horcrux? If I were a murdering jerk obsessed with Hogwarts artifacts and immortality, I would probably pee myself with happiness at the prospect of making an immortal pet of Gryffindor's into my horcrux. But then what does that imply about the two wands that contain Fawkes' feathers? Are they also horcruxes? Pseudo-horcruxes, maybe? And if Fawkes is a horcrux, (which I'm not saying is true) then things look rather hopeless, don't they?

Just a thought.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 News and Rumors
« on: June 07, 2007, 08:06:31 PM »
Whoa whoa whoa, I haven't heard anything about JKR denying that Harry's a horcrux. I can't find it in the Rumours section of the website, either... I'd be really bummed out, because I've been arguing pretty fiercely for the case that he IS a horcrux.

And Cho, I bet there's a way to get a package at the hotel... or, if you're going to be there for a whole month, you could probably get a PO Box.

Or you could always find a Borders and go to the midnight party! ^_^

Flourish and Blotts / Re: Return of the one word wonder
« on: May 18, 2007, 09:32:22 PM »

The Three Broomsticks / Re: Back from Bangkok
« on: May 18, 2007, 09:31:29 PM »
I had to note that when I saw your post, it inspired me to break out the soundtrack to Chess so I could hear "One Night in Bangkok." :)

(Sorry for breaking the "don't post in 3-week-old threads" rule of forums, but I had to say...)

ME TOO! We're like twins or something!

And I'm super-jealous. I would spend the 17 hours both ways on a place to spend just two hours in Thailand. A friend of the family's just spent a whole month there. I almost died of pure envy. He's bringing me pictures though, so it's okay. ;D Do you have any pictures, Pingaling?

Zonko's Joke Shop / Re: Still a cool game
« on: May 18, 2007, 09:27:24 PM »
Eh, I'm not a big sequel person, but probably the only one I //will// go see (besides Harry) is Shrek. Superman looks okay, but only DVD worthy in my book. Pirates I probably won't even watch. I established that I want to be the only person in America who doesn't watch it, or at least the only female under the age of 35. ^_^

If you had to pick a decade of music (70's, 80's, etc.) to listen to for the rest of your life, which would you choose?

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Bizarre theories
« on: May 18, 2007, 09:23:24 PM »
You know, that's actually quite plausible. It would tie together a lot of loose ends in a nice tidy package. Why Snape changed sides back then, why LV didn't want to kill Lily, and more on why Snape is such a buttface to Harry. I like it. A-Plus-Star.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 News and Rumors
« on: April 07, 2007, 07:30:41 PM »
I've actually had it in my head for a while that Fawkes is probably going to play a big role in this book, so I wonder if that could be what they're both reaching for?

I really need to reread the fifth book... too bad I left it at home when I came back to school. :(

*rips hair out in frustration* I really don't think I can wait 104 days, 7 hours, 28 minutes and 54 seconds, you guys!

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 News and Rumors
« on: April 01, 2007, 11:45:18 PM »
Obviously they have come through the Stargate, as we find out that LV's serpent-like qualities are actually because he was taken over by a goa'uld and retreated to P3X-62442, where within his mounds of treasure is stored a device capable of killing him.
*forehead slap* Of course! Why didn't I see it before?

So the arches, the curtains, the people watching, it all makes me think of the MoM, actually. There could be other places, and the people watching could be those LV has killed, or maybe the Deatheaters, but the outlines of their heads seems to suggest un-hooded types. They could, of course, just be a metaphor of something watching Harry.

I would initially vote for the curtain as being the veil, except it seems too solid to my mind. (And it's held open, but that could just be a symbol of one of the two of them having held open the veil to allow people to come out.

The MoM was kind of what I was getting at, too. I wasn't entirely clear on that. Were there curtains in that room besides the veil?

And I guess my question in response to the bolded parts I quoted above would be: has there been that kind of symbolism on GrandPre's covers as of yet? It seems to my (admittedly poor) memory that they've all depicted actual events from the book. Cover one, he's playing Quidditch, cover three, riding a hippogriff, cover six, looking down into the fake-locket-holding magic zombie-summoning bowl of weird make-Dumbledore-crazy juice... of course, it's possible that GrandPre would introduce new and exciting things to the illustrations this time, it being the last book and all, but I don't know.

Except there's broken stone and wood on the ground, which makes me wonder if it's actually at somebody's broken-down house.

Hmm... Yeah, that is curious. Godric's Hollow? It seems kind of fitting that the story would end there, since that's where it began.

Also, I was looking again at the UK Children's cover, and that thing that's clutching onto Harry looks too small and odd-colored to be human... could it be a house-elf maybe? Can you imagine if the trio had to drag Kreacher along on the Horcrux Hunt the whole time for some reason? Hilarity ensues.  ;D

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 News and Rumors
« on: March 30, 2007, 03:00:29 PM »
Hmm. As ever, I kinda like the British version better. :)
The British children's version or the adult? Because I find the adult version kind of boring... or if not boring, at least not very revealing. :D I've been scouring the British children's and the US covers for information on what to expect in the book... and I guess I haven't gotten too much there, either, but I'll share what I've gathered.

In the US version on the wraparound part of the cover, you can see YKW stretching his hands out similarly to Harry. On that article up there it says that he's stretching them //toward// Harry, but I think both Harry and YKW are probably reaching out toward the same thing. I just wonder why there are so many people watching, and what's with the yellow curtains. The whole thing seems very theatrical. I even made jokes with my sister about how it looks like it's Harry and YKW starring in the Broadway production of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. I'm trying to think what kind of place there would be that we've seen curtains and all I can think of would be the Ministry of Magic... where there's that platform thing or whatever and the veil is there and I //think// I remember something about curtains... does anyone else recall anything of this nature in book 5?

Now the Children's Version is kind of weird... I like the pretty picture of the castle on the back, but on the front, all three kids have weird expressions on, and even weirder positions. They look like they've just leaped through this arch in the back, but somehow Harry and Hermione are leaning forward, but Ron is falling over backward. Ron and Hermione look terrified, but they're looking in opposite directions which makes me think they're surrounded by something scary. Harry looks like he's a brown belt in Karate and he's going to chop off some Death Eater's heads with his bare hands, Jackie Chan-style. He's also got a cut on his left arm and, oh yeah, they're all surrounded by gold and jewels. Someone with pale hands and girly fingernails is holding a sword or a long dagger right behind Harry's back, with their other hand on Harry's right shoulder. And is that blonde hair I see? This just gets weirder and weirder, am I right?

So... any thoughts?

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 title (spoilers)
« on: February 09, 2007, 01:41:50 PM »
Does anyone else think it's just a coincidence that the place where Harry was born is called Godric's Hollow? Hollow = Hallows?

In other (only slightly off-topic) news, JKR just updated her site again with her typical answers: she can't tell us what Deathly Hallows means, she won't tell us the other two titles she considered, and she says this book is her favorite (just like HBP and Phoenix, LOL.)

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Due Date
« on: February 09, 2007, 01:38:10 PM »
I decided to stick with the status quo this year and pre-order the book in addition to going to a midnight party. I like to try and finish the whole thing in one chunk before dawn so I don't have to stay off the internet for very long. I got the deluxe edition off Amazon. I don't know what that means but they combined "Deluxe" with "Harry Potter Book" and got my attention. Once I finish the one I get from the store, I'll give it to my sister and keep the deluxe one for myself. Muahah.

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Due Date
« on: February 08, 2007, 01:58:50 AM »
Yeah, but they said that releasing it on the anniversary of the London bombings may have been disrespectful to the memory of that day. What I find ironic is that they released it instead on the anniversary of the next attempted London bombing. From Wikipedia:

July 21, 2005 - Four terrorist bombings, occurring exactly two weeks after the similar July 7 bombings, target London's public transportation system. All four bombs fail to detonate and all four suspected suicide bombers escape.

I've been looking for important events that took place on July 21. I heard a rumor that it was exactly 10 years ago that date that Philosopher's Stone came out in Britain, but it wasn't true. The only somewhat relevant think I can find is that it's the actor who plays Crabbe's 18th birthday. It was also the day Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, the day Blair became leader of the Labour Party, and the day the first Lord of the Rings novel was published.

It's also interesting to me that they did choose to do it so close to the movie release date. I was speculating for a July 31st release date, but all of my friends told me there was no way they'd do the two releases that close to each other, because it was a bad marketing move. Now I get to say "I told you so." I think they must be doing it in an attempt to create a frenzy of sorts - every single person in the world will be thinking of nothing but Harry Potter in those few days, and if the movie does well, it will boost sales of the book. Not that it needs it - it's already the top selling book on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.

Anywho... blah blah blah, I'm rambling. :D

The Three Broomsticks / Clubs, Societies, and Teams?
« on: January 19, 2007, 08:59:44 PM »
So I just joined a Harry Potter club at my University, and hence irrefutably cemented the fact of my geekdom in the annals of time. I was sorted by a very informal, subject-to-change process into Ravenclaw (shhh, you didn't just hear that,) and it was actually quite interesting. I brought up Hogsmeade and we might get some new people soon, since there are about 20-ish people and they all seem to be web-savvy. Anywho...

Is anyone else a member of a HP-related club dealie? I was just curious because we were talking about making T-shirts, but someone said that we wouldn't be allowed to make shirts because of licensing restrictions on the Harry Potter trademark. It seems like we should be able to wear a shirt that says WWU Harry Potter Club or something, but does anyone know more than me about it?

Also, we're looking into some activities to do around campus to promote the club. We're going to start showing the movies this quarter in one of our big lecture halls, and as such, we want to get lots of people to come and fill the space. We were talking about doing some sort or skit or demonstration in the central part of campus to advertise (something along the lines of pointing a wand at someone we planted and say a spell and they belch "slugs" or go into the full body-bind or fall over, just to cause a scene) but does anyone have any ideas for something just as awesome, or even potentially MORE awesome-r?

Anywho... *kicks forum* ARISE, POTTER FANS.  ;D

The Three Broomsticks / Re: Don't want to move again
« on: January 09, 2007, 08:06:37 PM »
Congrats on the promotion! You probably wouldn't like my town anyways... it gets so cold here. It's supposed to be like 15 degrees tonight with 2-3 inches of snow... Brr!

The Three Broomsticks / Re: Don't want to move again
« on: January 09, 2007, 07:44:52 PM »
If you wanted to go back to school, there's a dorm room in my building that just opened up. :D

Moving is hard. Good luck!

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Now for the real fun
« on: December 23, 2006, 02:54:26 AM »
Deathly Pillows
Breathy Willows
Freshly Scarecrows
Deathly Tarot

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 7 title (spoilers)
« on: December 21, 2006, 03:38:35 PM »
Hallows... I associated it with a kind of dark forest of a swampish variety, but I could just be making things up.

Deathly is quite a grim adjective.

Um... I'll come back when my jaw manages to make it off the floor.

Zonko's Joke Shop / Re: Still a cool game
« on: November 18, 2006, 12:52:32 AM »
Rock. Want to know why? Cause I read this joke once that's really funny. It goes like this:

"Okay, I understand that scissors beats paper
and I get how rock beats scissors
but there's just no way that paper can beat rock.
Paper is supposed to magically 'wrap around' rock, leaving it immobile?
Then why can't paper do that to scissors?
In fact, forget scissors!
Why can't paper do this to people?
Why aren't sheets of college-ruled notebook paper constantly leaping out of their folders and attempting to suffocate students as they take their notes?
I'll TELL you why!
It's because paper can't beat ANYBODY.
A rock would tear that crap up in about two seconds!
Every time I play rock-paper-scissors, I always choose rock.
That way, when somebody claims they've beaten me with their paper
I punch them in the face with my already clenched fist and say something like
'Oh, crap, sorry, I thought paper would protect you.'"

Movies or live theater?

« on: October 21, 2006, 10:26:23 PM »
That's way cool! I remember seeing the report that it might be possible and thinking "Yeah, right." Hopefully they'll be able to perfect it - I mean, I can see some pretty big applications for a thing like this - everything from armor for soldiers to toys for kids, no? But the question is... is it really a "cloak," or even possible to be one? The article used the word "cloak," but made it sound solid. I didn't really understand it all either, but I guess it sounded more like a shield, being that it's made from metal and all. I wonder if it is possible to make it more fabric-y?

Heh, KM, there's a guy I haven't thought about in a while. Where did he disappear to, anyways?

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Secrets of JKR's new site
« on: October 07, 2006, 12:03:20 AM »
Because you're too late. The tests are already finished and graded. That's a bummer, Cho. I thought you'd already gone. :( The questions that were asked are posted on Mugglenet, if you're interested.

Anywho, I got an E again. Wonder what the last one will be like?

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Secrets of JKR's new site
« on: October 06, 2006, 08:36:33 PM »
Yeah, that works fine. Maybe something about different net browsers. (I'm using Firefox, BTW). Anywho, sorry if I spoiled it for anyone. :(

The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Secrets of JKR's new site
« on: October 04, 2006, 12:40:21 PM »
Well, that's weird, because on my computer it's yellow text with a yellow background and I can't read it at all. Feel free to edit it to make it more hidden, because I'm not quite sure how to fix the problem if I can't see it.  :-\

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