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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Horcruxes speculation thread
« on: July 15, 2007, 02:13:18 PM »
SeaShelly, you're about right about what I think.  I think the having a special connection, being a Horcrux, and being possessed are three separate things.

First, one does not need to have a special connection in order to be a Horcrux.  If this wasn't the case, the Dark Lord would surely have known that he had lost a Horcrux (admittedly, this assumes that he did not know--but I will take the fact that R.A.B.'s note was still there to be found is a good sign he didn't).  More generally, I seem to recall that Albus told Harry that the Dark Lord's soul was now so well distributed that he would not notice if he lost a Horcrux.

Second, one does not need to have a special connection or be a Horcrux in order to be possessed.  Indeed, the Dark Lord has admitted that during his years in exile he frequently possessed lesser creatures, and that his preferred creature was the snake.  The converse is also true, although less interesting: obviously, you do not have to be possessed by someone in order to be a Horcrux, or have a special connection with them.

Remains the third and, perhaps, most salient question: does one need to be a Horcrux in order to have a special connection or, put another way, do Harry's and Nagini's special connections to the Dark Lord mean that they are Horcruxes?  I cannot speak to the general case.

However, I will try to address the contention that the Potter boy is one of the Dark Lord's Horcruxes.  First, if it is the case, the Dark Lord did not know it at the end of SS.  Otherwise, he would never have instructed Quirrell to kill the boy (would you trust such a clearly inferior wizard to perform powerful and destructive magic on a fragment of your soul?).  Second, if it is the case, Albus did not know it at the time of his death.  For all his soft-heartedness, I can only with difficulty imagine his allowing his pet student to run amock with a fragment of the Dark Lord's soul under his skin.

Finally, I cannot believe that the Potter boy is an "accidental" Horcrux.  From everything I've read, I have gotten the distinct impression that Horcrucifixion is an advanced and complicated piece of magic, and that one is as likely to accidentally make someone a Horcrux as to brew Felix Felicis by throwing ingredients into a pot willy-nilly.  I concede that there is only one recorded instance of Avada Kedavra backfiring, and that therefore its side effects are completely unknown, but I really do think the special connection and transferral of powers and abilities is the beginning and the end of it.

PS for SeaShelly: It's been a busy few years, but I, like everyone else around here I imagine, am starting to get seriously worked up about this next book coming out...

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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Horcruxes speculation thread
« on: July 12, 2007, 02:40:09 AM »
I would prefer a different interpretation.

It has been well established that the Dark Lord can, and does, possess snakes when it suits his purposes (indeed, if I recall correctly, Albus states explicitly that the Dark Lord possesses Nagini).  My reading of the relevant passage, Cho, would be that Harry is "being" the Dark Lord possessing Nagini, hence the sense of "being" Nagini, and the headache.

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Cold Storage / Re: Political Compass
« on: June 22, 2004, 02:10:20 PM »
Angelina, that puts you in the Libertarian Left.

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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Goblet of Fire Movie
« on: June 22, 2004, 08:32:50 AM »
Quote
Author Michael Crichton had mastered the narrative of science fiction.  But when he tried to design a computer game based on one of his works, it was a new craft he had to learn. How to lead people through a game without their feeling they have been led was not obvious, even to a wildly successful author.  This skill is precisely the craft a filmmaker learns. As Daley describes, “people are very surprised about how they are led through a film. [ I]t is perfectly constructed to keep you from seeing it, so you have no idea. If a filmmaker succeeds you do not know how you were led.” If you know you were led through a film, the film has failed.
Laurence Lessig: Free Culture

Though the book this is from is actually about something completely different, I think this extract perfectly illustrates how I feel about movie adaptations of books: they're a completely different art form, and so need to be approached completely differently.

I love Harry Potter, and would love to see great Harry Potter movies.  I refuse to believe, however, that anyone will ever be successful in doing so until they accept that showing the Harry Potter books on a screen and making Harry Potter movies are two completely different exercises.  The reason I remain so hopeful about the third movie is that I got the feeling that Cuaron really wanted to make Harry Potter movies, not just to "adapt" the book to the big screen.

Think about it: do the same things strike you in books and movies?  Do the great authors and great movie-makers use the same techniques, whether it be stylistically, or in setting up and developing plot and character?  Then why should we hope that the Harry Potter movies share any of these things with the books?

If we're going to make completely different but equally great works of art, that's great.  Otherwise, it's a waste of time and money.

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Cold Storage / Re: Terrorist Negotiations
« on: June 22, 2004, 08:11:24 AM »
A line has to be drawn between terrorist negotiations and kidnapping negotiations.  One is a political move in order to advance some ideal, generally organized by fanatics; the other is merely a business proposition: if you want to see your husband alive, hand over XYZ sums of money.  The prior is generally dealt with by the government, who has an explicit policy of never negotiating with terrorists, for the reasons stated in previous posts; the latter, however, generally happens secretly, because the kidnapper generally makes a condition of the return of the hostage that the police are not notified.  In both cases, though, the idea that negotiating provides motivation for further kidnappings holds true.  In the latter case, though, the criminals have a greater tendency to being relatively isolated individuals or groups, whilst in the prior they are in general large organizations.  In that case, arresting the terrorists after caving in to their demands will have less effect than if the same is done to kidnappers.  It could therefore be argued that, in domestic cases, negotiations may be acceptable.

From the perspective of public policy, however, the issue remains clear-cut: to negotiate is to announce to the world that there is money in kidnapping if one can only escape arrest.  From an individual perspective, families generally have enough to pay off kidnappers, and it is more than understandable that they not be willing to sacrifice a family member "for the greater good."

Therefore I must conclude that I will stand by an official line of not negotiating with kidnappers or terrorists, but that if the first group kidnap someone I know, I'll be the first to reach into my wallet.

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Cold Storage / Political Compass
« on: June 22, 2004, 07:50:48 AM »

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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Book 6 news and rumors
« on: June 17, 2004, 12:48:20 PM »
As far as the titles go, I think the Pyramids of Furmat would be a tragedy.  Firstly, it should be Fermat, not Furmat.  Fermat was a great mathematician, and furmat sounds like something to protect carpets from pets' hairs.  Secondly, Pyramids of Fermat would be a huge step down from Harry Potter and Pascal's Triangles, which refers to an actual mathematical concept, and which is rather magical... ;)

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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Goblet of Fire Movie
« on: June 17, 2004, 12:34:54 PM »
YMMV: Your Mileage May Vary

Firstly, it is true that whilst the story before the school year starts does provide delightful context, it'd deadwood.  Then it's not so much large parts as the fact that JKR tends to just elaborate on the story too much.  Too little of it actually advances the plot meaningfully.  I know you'll all be screaming "character development" at me in a second, but I really believe good writing is about not dissociating character and plot development.

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The Shrieking Shack (Spoilers) / Re: Goblet of Fire Movie
« on: June 16, 2004, 11:35:16 AM »
GoF has the potential to either be like Dune, an incoherent jumble of scenes from the book which are all individually faithful to the book, but that are utterly incomprehensible because all link between the scenes has been sacrificed due to time constraints; or it could be what GoF should have been.

GoF was long, bloated and poorly edited.  It was better than OotP in that respect, but I firmly believe that JK Rowling writes best when she sets herself a page count limit.  Here, the studio will set the limits.  Let us pray they do the right thing, and completely rework the story, to create the Harry Potter story we deserve.

There is, of course, a third possibility: they might rework the story and come up with a completely soulless Harry Potter derivative, like the first two movies.  I personally think options 1 and 3 are the most likely, but the dreamer in me is hoping for option 2...

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:stupid movie game for those with too much time.
« on: December 12, 2003, 11:51:47 AM »
Zeus is right on this one.  It is, of course, the überfamous Orson Welles quote from the Third Man.

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:stupid movie game for those with too much time.
« on: December 09, 2003, 08:47:53 AM »
*shudder*

No...

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:stupid movie game for those with too much time.
« on: December 08, 2003, 06:19:15 AM »
That's a Friends quote, not a movie quote!

"In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:Association Game Reborn
« on: December 04, 2003, 08:48:09 AM »
most people
~
mostly harmless

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:Association Game Reborn
« on: December 04, 2003, 08:05:39 AM »
very strange indeed
~
internet explorer users

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Library / Re:Quidditch
« on: December 04, 2003, 08:02:51 AM »
You don't.  You only control the Chasers and the Seeker.  Read a review here.

I personally never want to read about another Quidditch game again.  Everything that could ever happen in one that would make it exciting to read about has already happened.  Unless Voldemort breaks into the stadium and takes hostages, but Harry still catches the snitch (proving once and for all that his priorities are very confused), no one will ever be surprised by another "stunning" play.  Reading about professional sport without seeing it is bad enough (trust me: though I passionately love baseball, I just can't read the daily digests without ever seeing a game), but reading about high school sports is the pits.

I think this is why Quidditch is becoming ever less prominent.  There was none in GoF after the World Cup (which was a completely unnecessary anecdote as far as I am concerned), and Harry was banned from it in OoP.

I wonder what will happen in HP6 to stop Harry from playing.  Moreover, surely he'll be sorely out of practice by now.  Then again, he is a natural: in this world, hard work and training is optional for success...

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:Association Game Reborn
« on: November 29, 2003, 02:27:54 PM »
how old were you when you discovered Santa didn't exist
~
long

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Library / Re:Umbridge and Voldemort
« on: August 17, 2003, 05:45:28 AM »
I don't think Umbridge is driven by personal ambition.

Rather, she is a small-minded bureaucrat who gets the job done at any price.  At all times, she acts in Crouch's interests.  The difference is that Crouch has a conscience and ethics which restrain him, both of which she obviously lack.

Also, I think it's very strange that she should find an ally in Malfoy and the Slytherins.  She is not cunning, nor does she ever truly attempt to gain the power of those whose authority she recognizes.  She's Fudge's "right hand," not his successor, and never tries to change that.  She's definitely one of the 'Crouch' elements, and I can't see her allying herself to Voldemort.

Assuredly, it is people with as little imagination as her who made Voldemort's return so painless.  And she does hold power at Hogwarts.

I think this is yet again a sign that Rowling doesn't think Slytherin is the House for the cunning and ambitious, but rather that of the cruel and small-minded.


As to the question of her eventual reappearance in the series, I think that she won't enjoy the Minister's favor for long.  Firstly, she admitted to having sicced a Dementor on a Wizard and a Muggle.  Next, her little holiday with the centaurs won't have improved her opinion of 'half-breeds' one iota, and the Ministry will soon have to recognize that if they want to keep this war manageable, they'll need all the allies they can get.  There are historical precedents for this.  Though women and African-Americans were considered a sub-class, when the world wars struck people were happy for them to have equal rights - and responsibilities.  In these flashes of tolerance, the principle losers are always the racists.

Moreover, if everyone Fudge has surrounded himself with is of Percy's caliber, I have no doubt in my mind that they will dispose of her the minute she becomes a greater liability than she is an asset.

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The Halls of Hogwarts / Re:Role Play Revolution
« on: June 17, 2003, 06:59:01 PM »
What am I thinking?  Didn't

want to?!  I obviously haven't woken up properly.  My reflexes are slow.


"I will dispense with asking you why you are up so late.  

I have been informed of your detention.  However, as I remember, after detention, students are to go straight to their dormitories.  Your presence in a part

of the school so far away from the route from the dungeons to the Fat Lady is a violation of the rules, if I recall correctly.  Is it not so?  I think that 40

points should do, if you head straight up to your dormitory without another word.  Otherwise, Gryffindor's chances in the next House Cup might be

more dramatically affected."

His eyes gleamed dangerously as he uttered her sentence with relish.

"Good evening,

Professor Dumbledore.  Excuse my having to take care of some minor administrative problems for a few moments there.  It seems you have already been

- ah - informed of the situation.  Since you seem to have everything under control," he glanced at the ferrets, currently trying to eat Madeleine's

robes, "I think I'll go continue my patrol."

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The Halls of Hogwarts / Re:Role Play Revolution
« on: June 17, 2003, 01:26:43 PM »
KM was half-awoken by

something pulling at his feet, or more exactly his shoes.  He opened his eyes a fraction, just enough to distinguish two brownish blurs, one at each

foot.

"Not a professor, not interested," he mumbled, and turned over.

He was woken a few seconds later by a nagging

thought: surely two brownish things nibbling at his feet weren't a good thing.  He pushed himself up on his elbows, looked, and his heart stopped.

/>
There it was.  Except, impossibly, there were two of them.

"Why does it always have to be on my shift?"

He

dropped back down.  It seemed that every time he had to prowl the corridors, searching for students out after hours, something weird had to happen.  

Time for some fast thinking.  He had two options: deal with it, or make someone else deal with it.  Of course, Professor Snape didn't really like being

disturbed in the middle of the night.  One ferret wouldn't be enough to bother Dumbledore, but two?  Not really...  Let's see...  Who was the Gryffindor

Prefect on patrol duty tonight?  Madeleine, if he remembered.  But if he found her and modified her memory, making her think she was responsible

another time, she might start having serious problems.  Heh.  Her problem.

In one swift motion, he got up and started sprinting towards her

section of the castle.  The ferrets, thinking this was some sort of game, bounded gaily by his side.  He knew it'd look to any outside person like he was

running away from the ferrets, but Madeleine would be having her memory modified, and if anyone else was out, he'd threaten them with such egregious

punishments that they'd never dare to so much as mutter about it in their sleep.  Blackmail and memory charms: a Slytherin Prefect's two most

powerful and often used tools.

Of course, he had never considered that Professor Dumbledore, Madeleine, PermlessGirl, Tia and Professor

Snape would all happen to be in the next corridor.  His eyes widened.

He swore under his breath.

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Zonko's Joke Shop / Re:Still a cool game
« on: June 17, 2003, 12:24:37 PM »
Survive a Gulag: 20 people travel to Siberia, where they dig authentic trenches, and lay authentic train tracks in the middle of winter.  Last man standing gets $5000.

It won't be, but at least it's no worse than The Trench.  They recreate the lifestyle of a British soldier in the trenches during World War I, with only one exception: no threat of death.  Anybody else thinks that the constant shelling, gas poisoning, starvation and danger of drowning in mud are what made the trenches such a fun place to be?

Would you know who the last .400 hitter was (or: do you love baseball?)?

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Library / Re:The Heir of Gryffindor
« on: April 23, 2003, 08:03:56 AM »
J.R.R. Tolkien once

wrote:
Quote
I think that many confuse  'applicability' with 'allegory'; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and hte other in the purposed

domination of the author.
That's a quote from the Foreword to The Lord of the Rings.  I think it quite adequately summarises why I don't think

the books will necessarily mirror WW2.  They may, but if it's not intentional you shouldn't use the word 'allegory.'  I have the word of an Oxford

Professor that it's incorrect. ;)

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Library / Re:The Heir of Gryffindor
« on: March 23, 2003, 06:38:02 PM »
(Facetious

comments are transparent)

I think we have to admit by now that Harry is a Marty Stu.

However, I don't see why the Heir of

Gryffindor would have to be a biological heir (1).  Isn't the basic difference between Gryffindor and Slytherin that one judges based on merit, achievement

and potential, whilst the other judges based on bloodlines?  Slytherin's Heir not being a blood relation to The Great One would be ridiculous, but

Gryffindor's Heir not being so would not be so absurd.  Genes just aren't a Gryffindor obsession.

Secondly, I have to agree that, since

Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw have been bit players up to now, there's no reason for their Heirs to have any real importance (3).  Moreover, do we really want

to see the Three Heirs/Musketeers joining forces to overthrow evil?  [color=ffe2af]Other than Voldemort and Richelieu both having French names

(foreshadowing of things to come IRL?), there's no reason so far to link the two baddies...[/color]

Finally, I think being the Heir of Gryffindor is

a bit like being the One, or in love (4).  No one can tell you you're in love, you just know it.  [color=ffe2af]Maybe, during a duel, he'll come to realize his

nature.  He'll put out his arm with a bored look on his face, freeze all the Curses sailing at him, observe them, still looking bored, and then let them fall to

the ground.  Then, he runs towards Agent Sm...  I mean Voldemort and jumps into him.  Voldemort then explodes.[/color]

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The Ministry of Magic / Re:The Mysterious YABBC Tags
« on: February 04, 2003, 06:03:05 PM »
Glow/shadow are not official tags, to my knowledge.  As such, you cannot expect them to work on all browsers (Mozilla doesn't display any difference...).  Please keep that in mind.

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Library / Re:Hermione's name...
« on: January 15, 2003, 07:30:39 PM »
I meant

conventional medical problems in general.

They don't seem to fall prey to viri, bacteria, etc.  I therefore don't see why they should need to brush their

teeth or see a dentist.

I also think they should be above cosmetic surgery, except in extreme cases (results of a hex...).

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Library / Re:Relationships
« on: January 05, 2003, 09:44:41 PM »
How about

Hermione/Neville?

Hermione, afraid that Ron will never get the guts to ask her out, decides that what she really needs in live is security and

stability, so she ends up with Neville.  (That is, until we find out Trevor, yet another unregistered Animagus, and a Voldemort spy, kills Neville out of

boredom.)

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Library / Re:Return of the Trivia!
« on: January 05, 2003, 04:34:22 PM »
Close enough.  It's the study of

the future through numbers (or rather, through statistical analysis).

It's like what a baseball manager does: try to guess what will happen based

on all the statistics you can get.

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Library / Re:Relationships
« on: January 04, 2003, 07:21:39 PM »
Otherwise, a clandestine fan club is

founded.  Harry, irritated, goes out to try to find the ring-leaders to convince them to stop.  He confronts Ginny, and she admits her feelings to her,

showing that they've matured from the awe of a little kid to the love of a teen.  He realizes that he is not indifferent to her either, and...

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Library / Re:Relationships
« on: January 02, 2003, 08:30:19 PM »
I repeat: we are here not to discuss

what couples are a possibility, or how viable they are, but how they could come about.

So, if you think H/G is what'll happen, how do you see

them coming to be interested in one another, screwing up the courage to ask each other out?  What consequences could you see for the other

characters?

Otherwise, Hermione/Draco, how could that happen?  I think it's a bit of a stretch, but if someone could come up with a credible

possible path to them falling in love, I'd be more than happy to contemplate it.

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Library / Relationships discussion and extrapolation
« on: January 01, 2003, 11:27:27 PM »
The different couples, and why or why not they should come about, have been relatively thoroughly discussed.  What I think would be more

interesting, would be to discuss how potential relationships could come about.

Based on what we know, and safe bets, I think we can come

up with a bunch of different plot-lines.



For example, we know that Harry likes Cho and has done so for a while.  He managed to

find the courage to ask her out once, but Diggory was in the way.  However, I may be wrong, but Cho seemed interested and disappointed to not be able

to say yes to Harry.  Humans being the optimists they are, I suspect Harry may choose to interpret her reaction in the same way, given the ample time

for reflection that two months locked alone in a room tends to give.  There is a very good chance, therefore, that Harry ask Cho out.  Whether she'll

accept or not is debatable, and purely speculation.

However, whatever she answers, I think it'd have interesting repercussions on the other

couple that looks very probable: Hermione and Ron.  Hermione made it abundantly clear in GoF that she resented how Ron ignored her until the end.  

Was there jealousy, and by consequence love, in her reaction?  If that is the case, I would imagine that she would be even more frustrated by the fact

that Harry made a move, but Ron still hasn't.  Would she decide to ask him, or would she grow ever more frustrated with him?

Another

possibility is that, like in GoF, Harry gets the courage to take the plunge out of a pact with Ron.  He goes to Cho, and Ron goes to Hermione.  If that is

the case, I think it's a safe bet to say that Hermione would say yes, particularly considering the fact that, no matter what happens, there is practically no

chance of Hermione seeing Krum at school, and so very little chance of her still being attached to him.

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Library / Re:Return of the Trivia!
« on: December 31, 2002, 12:47:42 PM »
Well, since Ping never asked a

question, I might as well...


What is Arithmancy? (I just discovered the HP Usenet newsgroup... :) )

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